{"comments":{"870761":{"pb_id":"45158","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"870761","comment_id":"870761","member_id":"45158","comment":"I hadn't sifted through the results deep enough to see that Oldenburg finally ran. Will be interesting to see where he ends up. Many people thought he was supposed to be Gig's savior at #5 but Hammer has been doing a solid job at that.","date_added":"Sep 29th 2013, 3:18pm","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":180334,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"DontStopPre","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=45158","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=45158","pb_wally_id":"1182171"},"870359":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"870359","comment_id":"870359","member_id":"43715","comment":"
<\/a>DontStopPre, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>watchout, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>watchout, on , said:<\/p> <\/a>DontStopPre, on , said:<\/p>
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\nHammer, yes. Moussa ran slower (based on my conversions).
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\nCharlie Sheilds ran faster at Danner than Bob Firman as well, though, but he was even better at Sundodger and is likely to be one of the #6-10 runners in the end (so maybe on varsity, but not likely to be a scorer by the look of it). As SteveU suggested (and Doug Binder's recap implied), they probably ran as a group with their #5 (Hammer) to push him to a better time. And it seemed to work, since he ran about 7 seconds faster than he did last week (based on my conversions).
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\nHere's the Sun Willows equivalents that Gig Harbor's top 9 have run through their first three meets (this meet and Sundodger were controlled efforts):
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\nSundodger - Bob Firman<\/strong> - Nike Pre-Nationals
\n1 Wolfgang Beck: 15:34.96 - 14:53.17<\/strong> - 15:52.47
\n2 Logan Carroll: 15:35.08 - 15:15.52<\/strong> - 15:52.38
\n3 Tristan Peloquin: 15:35.04 - 15:22.06<\/strong> - 15:52.98
\n4 Mahmoud Moussa: 15:34.85<\/strong> - 15:43.43 - 15:53.12
\n5 Michael Hammer: DNS - 15:59.53 - 15:52.30<\/strong><\/span>
\n6 Charlie Shields: 16:49.77<\/strong> - 17:12.62 - 17:06.26
\n7 Jack Shields: 16:52.87<\/strong> - 17:21.99 - ??? (didn't look at sub-Danner yet)
\n8 Jordan Oldenburg: DNS - DNS - 16:56.34<\/strong>
\n9 Ryan Gregory: 17:31.23 - 17:29.40<\/strong> - ??? (didn't look at sub-Danner yet)
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\nOf course, conversions are never going to be perfect, but the rough idea applies: The top 4 didn't push it this week, and about all you can take from this is that Michael Hammer ran a little better this week when he had his teammates around him pushing him on.","date_added":"Sep 29th 2013, 6:28am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":180334,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"870330":{"pb_id":"45158","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"870330","comment_id":"870330","member_id":"45158","comment":"
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\n Thanks watchout. Yes Gig's 1-3 times obviously were superior and more telling at Firman but obviously Hammer and Moussa ran better at Danner\/Nike based on your conversion to Sun Willows (well Hammer big time and perhaps Moussa).","date_added":"Sep 29th 2013, 5:28am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":180334,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"DontStopPre","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=45158","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=45158","pb_wally_id":"1182171"},"870295":{"pb_id":"9184","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"870295","comment_id":"870295","member_id":"9184","comment":"
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\nWhat, you don't think they were maxing out with that 0.86 second #1-5 spread?
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\nDan","date_added":"Sep 29th 2013, 4:38am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":180334,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"members\/avatar\/3295.jpg","pb_title":"dkap","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=9184","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/dkap.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"10044"},"870284":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"870284","comment_id":"870284","member_id":"43715","comment":"
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\nlow 15:50's... but the real question is what they would run if they were letting loose. Their time at Bob Firman (15:49.7 on a course that's 20-25 seconds slower than Sun Willows) is more telling.","date_added":"Sep 29th 2013, 3:54am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":180334,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"870277":{"pb_id":"45158","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"870277","comment_id":"870277","member_id":"45158","comment":"Watchout: I'm curious what Gig's times of 16:42 at Danner would be equal to on the Sun Willows course. Any idea?","date_added":"Sep 29th 2013, 3:43am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":180334,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"i\/no_avatar.png","pb_title":"DontStopPre","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=45158","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=45158","pb_wally_id":"1182171"},"870135":{"pb_id":"3026","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"870135","comment_id":"870135","member_id":"3026","comment":"","date_added":"Sep 29th 2013, 2:08am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":{"wally_id":"35","email_settings":"7168","email":"chrisnickinson@gmail.com","address":"chrisnickinson","gender":"m","member_id":"3026","member_name":"Chris Nickinson","avatar_location":"av-3026.jpg","avatar_type":"upload","avatar":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-3026.jpg"},"can_delete":false,"item_id":180334,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-3026.jpg","pb_title":"Chris Nickinson","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=3026","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/chrisnickinson.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"35"},"869671":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"869671","comment_id":"869671","member_id":"43715","comment":"Girls Jim Danner Ratings (200.0 ~ 15:32.8)
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\n1 - Alexa Efraimson, 11 - 17:59.67 - Camas - 152.8
\n2 - Ella Donaghu, 10 - 18:40.86 - Grant - 139.5
\n3 - Sam Mckinnon, 12 - 18:55.09 - Mountain View (ID) - 134.9
\n4 - Charlotte Corless, 12 - 19:06.65 - Sunset - 131.2
\n5 - Hannah Gindlesperger, 10 - 19:09.89 - Summit - 130.2
\n6 - Emily Wolff, 12 - 19:22.62 - Arapahoe - 126.1
\n7 - Rose Christen, 12 - 19:26.76 - Central Kitsap - 124.8
\n8 - Nicole Goecke, 12 - 19:27.23 - Prairie - 124.6
\n9 - Alexis Fuller, 11 - 19:33.79 - Union - 122.5
\n10 - Paige Dilmore, 12 - 19:36.20 - Rocky Mountain - 121.7
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\n14 - Talley Hill, 9 - 19:42.49 - Arroyo Grande - 119.7
\n18 - Angela Gemignani, 10 - 19:54.12 - Arroyo Grande - 116.0
\n20 - Jocelyn Reynolds, 11 - 19:58.12 - Arroyo Grande - 114.7
\n39 - Elizabeth Heyde, 11 - 20:34.54 - Arroyo Grande - 103.0
\n51 - Haley Chavez, 9 - 20:51.17 - Arroyo Grande - 97.6
\n54 - Leza Cassidy, 10 - 20:56.50 - Arroyo Grande - 95.9
\n55 - Rosa Granados, 9 - 20:56.67 - Arroyo Grande - 95.8
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\n5 - Hannah Gindlesperger, 10 - 19:09.89 - Summit - 130.2
\n13 - Olivia Brooks, 9 - 19:37.76 - Summit - 121.2
\n24 - Kaely Gordon, 11 - 20:05.07 - Summit - 112.4
\n35 - Piper McDonald, 11 - 20:22.46 - Summit - 106.9
\n65 - Hadley Schoderbek, 12 - 21:10.77 - Summit - 91.3
\n77 - Jessica Cornett, 11 - 21:28.24 - Summit - 85.7
\n79 - Emma Su, 12 - 21:30.08 - Summit - 85.1
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\n10 - Paige Dilmore, 12 - 19:36.20 - Rocky Mountain - 121.7
\n22 - Sara Mussleman, 9 - 20:02.34 - Rocky Mountain - 113.3
\n44 - Ellen Caminiti, 12 - 20:38.71 - Rocky Mountain - 101.6
\n45 - Brittany Wilding, 10 - 20:40.36 - Rocky Mountain - 101.1
\n58 - Julia Fretwell, 12 - 21:03.11 - Rocky Mountain - 93.8
\n62 - Carli Corpus, 10 - 21:08.40 - Rocky Mountain - 92.1
\n81 - Faith Dilmore, 9 - 21:41.15 - Rocky Mountain - 81.5
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\n1 - Alexa Efraimson, 11 - 17:59.67 - Camas - 152.8
\n15 - Alissa Pudlitzke, 11 - 19:45.90 - Camas - 118.6
\n27 - Marley LeFore, 9 - 20:09.51 - Camas - 111.0
\n47 - Maddie Woodson, 10 - 20:43.49 - Camas - 100.1
\n83 - Meghan Finley, 9 - 21:46.44 - Camas - 79.8
\n101 - Mckenzie Good, 12 - 22:09.14 - Camas - 72.5
\n108 - Alexa Jones, 10 - 22:28.68 - Camas - 66.3
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\n4 - Charlotte Corless, 12 - 19:06.65 - Sunset - 131.2
\n28 - Nicole Griffiths, 10 - 20:13.41 - Sunset - 109.8
\n38 - Audrey Huelskamp, 10 - 20:33.49 - Sunset - 103.3
\n52 - Isabel Huelskamp, 10 - 20:51.84 - Sunset - 97.4
\n61 - Kendall Butz, 11 - 21:07.09 - Sunset - 92.5
\n104 - Michelle Lo, 11 - 22:19.50 - Sunset - 69.2
\n111 - Maika Thiringer, 12 - 22:39.55 - Sunset - 62.8
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\n3 - Sam Mckinnon, 12 - 18:55.09 - Mountain View (ID) - 134.9
\n31 - Erin Hagen, 11 - 20:17.38 - Mountain View (ID) - 108.5
\n41 - Kaitlyn Fox, 11 - 20:34.96 - Mountain View (ID) - 102.8
\n53 - Allison Ellingson, 11 - 20:51.97 - Mountain View (ID) - 97.4
\n56 - Holly Ellingson, 11 - 20:58.64 - Mountain View (ID) - 95.2
\n84 - Mariah Simpson, 11 - 21:47.74 - Mountain View (ID) - 79.4
\n91 - Reagan Badger, 9 - 21:56.71 - Mountain View (ID) - 76.5","date_added":"Sep 29th 2013, 12:26am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":180334,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"869654":{"pb_id":"43715","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"869654","comment_id":"869654","member_id":"43715","comment":"I'll have to do each race separately due to the conditions, but...
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\nBoys Jim Danner Ratings (200.0 ~ 15:34.4)
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\n1 - Matthew Maton, 11 - 15:57.99 - Summit - 192.4
\n2 - Elijah Armstrong, 11 - 16:04.25 - Pocatello - 190.4
\n3 - Andrew Rafla, 12 - 16:07.29 - Timberline - 189.5
\n4 - Sam Levora, 12 - 16:14.56 - Sandpoint - 187.1
\n5 - Reilly Bloomer, 11 - 16:14.83 - South Eugene - 187.0
\n6 - Devon Grove, 12 - 16:19.45 - Lake Washington - 185.5
\n7 - Cameron Stanish, 12 - 16:23.54 - Garfield - 184.2
\n8 - Alejandro Cisneros, 12 - 16:28.35 - Hermiston - 182.7
\n9 - Dylan Hayes, 12 - 16:34.12 - Garfield - 180.8
\n10 - Benjamin Gonzalez, 11 - 16:34.16 - Warren - 180.8
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\n13 - Michael Hammer, 11 - 16:42.09 - Gig Harbor - 178.3
\n14 - Logan Carroll, 12 - 16:42.18 - Gig Harbor - 178.2
\n15 - Wolfgang Beck, 12 - 16:42.27 - Gig Harbor - 178.2
\n16 - Tristan Peloquin, 11 - 16:42.81 - Gig Harbor - 178.0
\n17 - Mahmoud Moussa, 12 - 16:42.95 - Gig Harbor - 178.0
\n109 - Jordan Oldenburg, 12 - 17:49.48 - Gig Harbor - 156.6
\n118 - Charles Shields, 12 - 17:59.92 - Gig Harbor - 153.3
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\n10 - Benjamin Gonzalez, 11 - 16:34.16 - Warren - 180.8
\n18 - Michael Hernandez, 12 - 16:44.18 - Warren - 177.6
\n23 - Andres Barragan, 11 - 16:52.28 - Warren - 175.0
\n33 - Jonathan Rodriguez, 11 - 17:04.82 - Warren - 171.0
\n49 - Faustino Diaz, 12 - 17:19.19 - Warren - 166.4
\n58 - Matthew Sanchez, 10 - 17:24.27 - Warren - 164.7","date_added":"Sep 29th 2013, 12:20am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":180334,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-43715.jpg","pb_title":"watchout","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/profile.php?member_id=43715","pb_wally_id":"1073498"},"869652":{"pb_id":"42418","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"869652","comment_id":"869652","member_id":"42418","comment":"Girls results up now, too. No contest this time, at least so the times show: Efraimson 17:59, Donaghu 18:40. Don't know how it unfolded.","date_added":"Sep 29th 2013, 12:13am","nest":0,"liked":false,"member":[],"can_delete":false,"item_id":180334,"item_type":"news","pb_image":"\/\/www.runnerspace.com\/forum\/uploads\/av-42418.jpeg","pb_title":"SteveU","pb_url":"profile.php?member_id=42418","pb_url_dns":"https:\/\/SteveU.runnerspace.com\/","pb_wally_id":"1030740"},"869651":{"pb_id":"42418","pb_type":"members","likes":"0","parent_id":"0","pid":"869651","comment_id":"869651","member_id":"42418","comment":"It looks like the Gig kids all ran just as fast as their 5th man could go. Andrew Rafla ... must be pretty good, too.
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\nGood win for Maton!
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